Carol 🐳 — Today at 6:19 PM i just had a brain blast to inform Satan's character a shitload and give him more depth [6:19 PM] i'm actually kinda proud of this one LadyNanre — Today at 6:20 PM :O? Carol 🐳 — Today at 6:21 PM so like I was thinking Satan knows during all of this that God is fuckin dead. cause you know, he killed him LadyNanre — Today at 6:21 PM Mhm Carol 🐳 — Today at 6:23 PM So i'm like okay okay he's bored of waiting, sure, he's a bored asshole but like why sure he's lived for eternity and there's plenty of reasons in canon to give a sensible explanation but what if I make him more emotionally driven than that Like he lives in a complete shithole full of pain and suffering due to the whims of his alternate self that could generously be called a sociopath and its clear from Satan's interactions that Satan is just a bundle of emotion, he feels it a lot and he feels it strongly [6:23 PM] it's no wonder that he killed him but like what if he regrets it [6:24 PM] however much he detests or has distaste for him, God was the closet person he ever had to having someone like him [6:24 PM] and he's fucking gone now. [6:24 PM] and where does God go when he dies?? well, nowhere Satan knows about!!! [6:24 PM] so there's nothing he can even do to take it back [6:25 PM] instead of forging his own path with doing that, he still just turbocharges head first into the plan god had sure he may have made a mess of it and not done it in the way he intended [6:25 PM] but I think it says a lot that he still just. is almost a puppet in the same way he puppeteers the reapers around [6:26 PM] almost like he's searching for some small scrap of control and manifesting his own will in anyway he can manage [6:26 PM] but completely lost without his other half to inform him and talk to him anymore so he just falls into old habits with a hole in his chest expanding every century that he can't fill properly with anyone [6:27 PM] sorry if I'm being erratic or missing things I'm like mildly anxious but trying my best here NDNG [6:27 PM] nothing to do with this ofc LadyNanre — Today at 6:30 PM Oh I absolutely love this read tbh [6:31 PM] Satan is played pretty straight in ITGR, but like He's just as much playing guessing games as everyone else about what God's plan is. God told him to "Go to hell and come back when he has the answer" and he doesn't know what the fucking question is [6:31 PM] Celeste knows, but she might be the only one God ever told Carol 🐳 — Today at 6:31 PM YEAH LIKE HE WAS MADE FOR THIS PURPOSE AND LEFT ON READ THAT'S GOTTA FUCK WITH HIM EMOTIONALLY LadyNanre — Today at 6:31 PM He tells Scarlet directly that he thinks he was created to suffer Carol 🐳 — Today at 6:32 PM I'm taking that and i'm fucking doing a made 200m dash with it LadyNanre — Today at 6:32 PM True, it was when he was trying to fake being sympathetic to catch her off guard, but Satan doesn't LIE in ITGR (edited) Carol 🐳 — Today at 6:32 PM what if Satan is actually that sad and like who the fuck does he get to talk to? he's satan. he's made to be the bad guy. [6:33 PM] he got the most raw deal out of everyone LadyNanre — Today at 6:33 PM Satan mentions offhandedly early in the series that there's a single person in Hell who got a punishment more severe than the ninth layer and its never directly revealed who he's talking about but like [6:33 PM] FROM THAT PEEK INTO HIS SELF IMAGE WE CAN TAKE A GUESS Carol 🐳 — Today at 6:33 PM so here's the thing right [6:34 PM] in Paradise Lost, a lot of people who haven't read it take away from it that its the story where Satan is sad and sympathetic which is not what it is Again, he literally ruins Eden and cause everything evil in the world to exist for no other reason except spite [6:35 PM] but fucking what if with IGTR he is that sad and sympathetic Devil he literally has more ability to emotionally connect to people than his "good" half does [6:35 PM] what if over time, like you almost start agreeing with some of the shit he's doing and I have him start becoming far more complicated and difficult to outright just hate LadyNanre — Today at 6:37 PM The "made to suffer" speech is like Its Satan laughing at both Scarlet and The audience for believing there was something good in him, and in fact rubbing their noses in the fact that he had the option to be the victim, the poor soul with a job he can't stand But he chose to be a monster because he loves hurting people Carol 🐳 — Today at 6:38 PM YEAH but hear me out what if he isn't so static what if that was a reactionary response to his situation almost like a punished kid [6:38 PM] and as someone who's lifespan is far beyond any normal person, change would come to him far more slowly to our eyes [6:39 PM] it start losing its appeal he starts getting bored of it torturing people gets tiring, and doesn't bring out that flame anymore in him the flame that was fueled because in the back of his mind, every person he tormented was almost a way of getting back at god and showing people how cruel GOD is for making Satan and what crueler fate is there to have is to be Satan and that is your role [6:40 PM] and whatever small pittance of glee he gets from it he's just doing what he was made to do LadyNanre — Today at 6:41 PM Like Satan has a very different perspective on the world than the rest of the cast It says something that he makes Sinners tell him stories when he has nothing to do A few days on earth is a few years in Hell, how long is he just sitting around, making fun of his Reapers, and dragging sinners up to make them tell him stories [6:41 PM] Because that's canonically all he does when he's between sinners [6:42 PM] Even with the number of Reapers we have in the server, a sinner coming down is the highlight of his month probably [6:42 PM] And like [6:42 PM] He only has experienced other realms secondhand @LadyNanre Like Satan has a very different perspective on the world than the rest of the cast It says something that he makes Sinners tell him stories when he has nothing to do A few days on earth is a few years in Hell, how long is he just sitting around, making fun of his Reapers, and dragging sinners up to make them tell him stories Carol 🐳 — Today at 6:42 PM he doesn't get the priviledge of knowing anything else LadyNanre — Today at 6:42 PM He got like 2 minutes in Heaven when God created him and then immediately gets bitchslapped into Hell and Can't Leave [6:43 PM] His motivation for starting the Upheaval is never stated but it literally might be a suicide attempt Carol 🐳 — Today at 6:43 PM YEAH!!!! YEAHHHHH!!! [6:44 PM] I knew I was fucking onto something [6:44 PM] there was an interaction with Satan and Celeste in dms and I just got this feeling in my gut at what I was having him say like [6:44 PM] man that's actually [6:44 PM] kinda sad [6:44 PM] if he's acting out now, he can't even get the one person's attention and care he wanted it from, anyway [6:45 PM] because he killed him [6:45 PM] it's honestly kinda tragic [6:45 PM] like he's evil for a lot of shit but like does he even know any better?? has he been given the proper chance to??